i understand that they claim to have the responsibility to preach to every corner of the earth, so they can encourage armageddon to come quickly.
(matthew 24:14 "and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
what rationale do they have, for keeping track of their hours and literature placements?
So, if the report is beneficial to check up yhe spiritual status of each JW, why not report how many times a month they pray? How can any one believe that placed litterature or RV's is a signt of spiritual health?
Or...could it possibly have to do with guilt? Not so many hours should mke the JW feeling bad?
Oh, I remeber the first time I reported 0 , in fact it will be 25 years aago next month. I feeled so liberated when I told the secretary "Nothing to report, sir" :-)
read this in another thread,,,,,,,,,feb 2014 wt.
there, they cast doubt on the application of daniel's 70 weeks prophecy to being fulfilled with christ.. "could the first-century jews have calculated the time of the messiahs arrival on the basis of the prophecy of the 70 weeks recorded at daniel 9:24-27 ?
while that possibility cannot be ruled out, it cannot be confirmed.
"If the timing of the 70 weeks had been correctly understood in the first century C.E., one would think that the apostles and other first-century Christians would have referred to it as proof that the promised Messiah had arrived right on time in the person of Jesus Christ. However, there is no evidence that the earliest Christians did so.
Another factor is worth noting. Gospel writers often pointed out that certain prophecies found in the Hebrew Scriptures were fulfilled in Jesus Christ. (Matt. 1:22, 23; 2:13-15; 4:13-16) Yet, not one of them connects Jesus’ appearance on earth with the prophecy of the 70 weeks."
Aw 1971 12/8 p8 (one of many references)"
So..God gave the Jewish people a profecy (trough Daniel) about when the Messiah should arrive/be born.......but everyone failed to understand that prophecy......hmmm, that's a bit tricky......a omniscient and omnipotent God should be able to do better
Not even the gospel wrtires seemed to know about it and............not even Jesus......he didn't say anything about it.........why on earth didn't he help some more jews understand that he was the Messiah? Was he afraid that they wouldn't crucify him then?
By the way...the prophecy about Christ's return was a fiasco aswell.......the WTS did not understand that 1914 was the year until the begining of the 1930's. Old YHWH has some communication problems!
pages 1766-1767 of the 2013 nwt states that the message of the bible is gods right to rule.. given that the wts declares that gods kingdom rule began in 1914, one would suspect that this would feature.
instead, there is a vague reference to something that supposedly happened about 1914.. here's the picture:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/2013_nwt__pages_1766__1767.jpg.
About one or two generations after about 1914............. around 2520 years after ..about 607 BC. Should we expext some new light in WT chronology?
thus asks my beloved and slow-on-the-uptake jw hubby, who is finding it increasingly difficult to drag himself out the door.
so far, i've tried to avoid sarcastic comebacks (i'ts boring and useless!
duh!
"Seriously, I think I am better off giving him more and more opportunities just to DO what he naturally loves doing. He'll never figure out why."
Just two thoughts...I hope I am not offensive, but sometimes I get the impression that you look upon your husband as an very infantile person....OK, it's your marriage. I am sure you treat him nice...at least sometimes And...could it be that his lack of self awareness is related to him being a JW?
there is a trend in modern evangelical, charismatic and "non-religious spirituality" that gets dangerously close to erotic love of jesus.. it's something that i first observed during my christian years especially in the lyrics of christian songs and sometimes during open-prayer times.
if you haven't experienced open prayer you are the lucky ones.
everybody adopts the shampoo position - elbows on knees, head in hands - and whoever is "moved by the spirit" speaks up for a while, followed by an awkward silence, followed by two people speaking up at the same time, followed by silence, and so on.. anyway back to the topic, here are a few random examples .... "lord i give you my heart.
Jgnat, do you know som more of Rosetti? Was she a nun or just a christian poet? Probably a single woman I should guess!
I mentioned Mechtild of Magdeburg earlier...some of her poems/writings are very erotic, but it seems like the english translations have been a bit "moderated" in contence! As I remember she wrote of heavenly orgasms and things like that.......those nun were not prude...
this is a very strange thing for me to do.
i have been an active witness for over 25 years.
i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.
The dog..I am sure that 99% of all people will define a generation in that way.
Butm you probably understand that the society hade to change te teaching to "save" the WT chronology and 1914. Remember this is the third change of the generation teaching since 1995. But a lot of JW seem to not have noticed those changes.
this is a very strange thing for me to do.
i have been an active witness for over 25 years.
i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.
Hi Dog!
I think a lot of elders feel the same way as you do with that generation teaching. But if you don't want to get DF'd you have to act carefully. Maybe ju just could prtend to be a tiny bit confused during those paragraphs of the WT-study. I am sure that a lot of people in your congregation are confused....if they notice one elders confusion some of them might begin thinking a bit.
Take care
there is a trend in modern evangelical, charismatic and "non-religious spirituality" that gets dangerously close to erotic love of jesus.. it's something that i first observed during my christian years especially in the lyrics of christian songs and sometimes during open-prayer times.
if you haven't experienced open prayer you are the lucky ones.
everybody adopts the shampoo position - elbows on knees, head in hands - and whoever is "moved by the spirit" speaks up for a while, followed by an awkward silence, followed by two people speaking up at the same time, followed by silence, and so on.. anyway back to the topic, here are a few random examples .... "lord i give you my heart.
It's easy to make jokes om this subject....just think about one certain poster with intense contact with Jesus. No names !
But, nevertheless. I find it very interesting from a psychological and sociogical point of wiev.
I just wonder about this related to straight Jesus-men.....there must be some kind of hidden homoerotc bonding.
there is a trend in modern evangelical, charismatic and "non-religious spirituality" that gets dangerously close to erotic love of jesus.. it's something that i first observed during my christian years especially in the lyrics of christian songs and sometimes during open-prayer times.
if you haven't experienced open prayer you are the lucky ones.
everybody adopts the shampoo position - elbows on knees, head in hands - and whoever is "moved by the spirit" speaks up for a while, followed by an awkward silence, followed by two people speaking up at the same time, followed by silence, and so on.. anyway back to the topic, here are a few random examples .... "lord i give you my heart.
I was thinking about medieval nuns, like Mechtild of Magdeburg...her poems vere erotic in the descriptions of her relationship with God/Jesus.
there is a trend in modern evangelical, charismatic and "non-religious spirituality" that gets dangerously close to erotic love of jesus.. it's something that i first observed during my christian years especially in the lyrics of christian songs and sometimes during open-prayer times.
if you haven't experienced open prayer you are the lucky ones.
everybody adopts the shampoo position - elbows on knees, head in hands - and whoever is "moved by the spirit" speaks up for a while, followed by an awkward silence, followed by two people speaking up at the same time, followed by silence, and so on.. anyway back to the topic, here are a few random examples .... "lord i give you my heart.
I think you are on to something important. I should guess that the main reason of the overrepresentation of women in christian congreagitions (JW as well) is that pseudu-erotic relationship whith tjhe Jesus-persona.
Jesus as ones personal savior and redeemer is certanly something special for heterosexual women. One have not to be Freud to realize that.
